160 comments on “Thick Air…Thin Water

  1. “for many disagreement, concerning faith, can lead to some aggression, even violence”

    Yep. We are witnessing it here, right now… People pretend to be ‘humble’ until you touch the core… watch how fast the masks fly off, and the Real Faces emerge, people lose their divinity in no time at all… No faith remains, just the talk about one. Seen it time and time again.

  2. - Satan originated lies & evil and he is using you well

    – I think he’s getting far more mileage out of you

    LOL… spot on. Dr O, thanks for keeping it in Love, the ‘Godless’ creature as you are:)

  3. You of little faith, indeed..

    You will be punished…

    you’ve gotten too big for your britches…

    Who gave you the authority to act like you know?…

    you hate to admit others know things about God that you don’t…

    You don’t understand what others do and because you are the ‘smartest person in the world’…

    But you will be punished for that…

    And no, just other people being intelligent agitates you…

    You attacked me earlier by admitting that you disturbed my peace (which you did not, trust me..if you can trust

    anyone beside yourself, that is)…

    I called you evil, that is not attacking-that is the truth…

    You only care for self….

    My faith is worth more than your limited theories…

    You are vain and you just said you are bigger than God before this. You are evil indeed…

    You are. You really are. Satan originated lies & evil and he is using you well…

    Done with you. You’re sick…

    You need God to punish you for your error against Him to learn, first….

    The more I stand up for Jehovah, the more I can get over myself.

    CAN YOU? get over yourself? Look at what you wrote. Where is the Light in it? How do you TREAT another because they happen to have a different understanding of God to yours? WHERE IS YOUR CHRISTIAN LOVE? Can you hold the Light within you for Another, regardless? It seems – not. Your faith…. is fake then, nothing more than a Dogma for the written word. You do not manifest it. THIS is the ignorance and a closed off mind, unable to see the Truth in all clarity.

    • no, I am the bad guy for causing people to think…and use their mind in an infinite way…we should all get on the same track…not knowing where we’re going, and dive off the same cliff…recall the Dark Ages, seems to be returning…peace

      • Nah, the Dark Ages never went away, just got ‘politically correct’….

        Remember… no one can hurt us, but ourselves. Keep that thought (faith) and carry on. You are giving people a CHOICE of which cliff to dive off, for there are many Unknowns out there…. That’s much more than some allow for themselves.

        You are not alone, Sir:)

  4. Wow….

    Calonie…. you started nice and humble and degenerated to name calling, accusatory passages and being generally quite unforgiving in HOW YOU CONDUCT YOURSELF. What happened to tolerance? Jesus gave his life WITHOUT a word against those who couldn’t understand his message. Here Dr O said ” why are faiths starting wars, killing each other and innocents in God’s name”….. here you have started the War, a verbal one, granted, but in real life people like you start wars because they have no tolerance and ability to relate to anyone, other than their own beliefs and convictions.

    In the beginning I was admiring your conviction, now I feel your lack of ability to b a real Christian. Remember, God is a VERB, it is how you conduct yourself and manifest the Spirit out there…. are you able to RELATE, or can you only preach to others?

    True faith does not require anyone to ‘agree’ – ‘disagree’ with it. True faith just IS. What got you so hot and bothered that you cannot let it go and feel the need to DEFEND? Defenders of Faith often become its abusers. You are blind to see that in yourself.

    Haha!!! And you want to leave the last word…. pride…..

  5. Oh my goodness what a lot of response this brought. I’m not remotely interested in reading any of it, or entering into discussion about it. People are as the way the are. My “job” (if you can call it that), my only job, is to celebrate living. Celebrate people the way they are. Celebrate Living! Imagine if we all did that. Imagine how that would change the world!

  6. Maybe people should talk TO Christians and not AT us. Might learn something and open up the ears a bit.
    You are disputive of believers simply because you don’t understand God & our faith. You haven’t taken the time to understand it to the level we do and so you deny it. Just because you cannot take the time to know the TRUE God (the One Whom IS good and wants the best for us) does not mean you can erase His existance. Just because you misinterpret the Bible and also skip verses (intentionally or mistakenly); therefore getting it all wrong…well, that is your error. And how can you understand someone if you aren’t connected to them? God works like that, too. You can’t understand Him unless you connect. Your reason for arguing may be this: you disbelieve based on blaming God for your and the world’s errors (never looking at self and others), blame becomes denial. Blame evil (yes, Satan exists, too…he embodies evil), blame people for following up that evil (instea of following God’s Will). Blame self.
    Look at any part of the Bible where His destruction of people is mentioned: He always destroyed the evil, rather than let evil exist (which would go against Him). He never destroyed the good. He had REASONS. WE humans, on the other hand, kill each other for stupid things like: material possessions, because we are mad, because someone isn’t the ‘right’ color. We are the wicked ones. Unbelievers twist the Word (or never even read it) so that they can justify not wanting to follow God and to justify why they deny Him. That is a sin, too, and it will be punished.
    Learn of the loving God the right way (not basing Him on your assumptions and lies, that is), accept Him & Jesus, admit your sin & move from sin, open up that heart. One God for all. Even for you. He’s waiting.

    • you are making a lot of assumptions, that if this God existed beyond your imagination, you would know better…I was raised, in Church every Sunday, as a Southern Baptist, why didn’t God tell you that…I have read the Bible, in several versions, from cover to cover…why didn’t God tell you that…and I would like your proof, irrefutable, that the Bible, your Religion, even you, has anything to do with God or an understanding of such…peace

      • Above you stated: “Man invented God and his son” and you stated: “God is a spirit of your Mind”.
        Nothing about such statements would indicate to anyone that you believe in God.
        Then you say, in your above reply: “I would like your proof, irrefutable, that the Bible, your Religion, even you, has anything to do with God or an understanding of such…”
        My proof that the Bible has to do with God is that it is His Word told through persons whom wrote down what they’d had revelations of or even observed. My proof that my denomination, Christianity, has to do with God, is that it was begun by followers of Christ, God’s son (and anyone now corrupting the church…well you can blame that on corrupt people and not on the religion itself which was established in purity). And my proof that I do have an association/relationship with God is simply that I am a believer and that I love Him; that my experiences with God are a lot more than a stranger could know.

            • All I do is inform you so that you can be saved in Jehovah (when accepting Him as He has made Himself known to be to us, that is), love Him as He really is and so forth. (And I am digressing here, but: He means well always. He has a perfect Will, but we as humans often mess up and do our will, and then many have the audacity to blame Him for their personal errors). Belief in His existance and in His very real spiritual being is all so much more important than you give it credit for. When I connect with Him as I should and want to, I am always calmer and full of a shining joy (sounds corny the way I term it, but it is so true and makes me feel I can endure anything). But yet, I can’t make you. You have to want to accept the real God.

            • You miss the depth at which I mean feeling. It isn’t about wanting to feel good, it is about really feeling God. I guess you missed that in my very long paragraph earlier about my personal experiences & life moments (which I only stated VERY little about, as I have 30+ years of wonderful moments with God) with God; which is basically what I mean by feeling: emotional, spiritual, substantial and personal EXPERIENCES that I have had and still have…no one can take them from me, noone has that right). God is very real. I know it for myself. He is beyond just thinking Him. He IS. I know it and many people share the same knowledge. Noone can change that.

          • I couldn’t reply to your last post for some reason, so I am doing it this way. You posted: “in the end…it comes down to what you ‘make’ yourself believe…and you have every right to believe as you choose…however, so do I…the integrity test of faith is when we can peacefully co-exist…I enjoy dialogue with you, it is pleasant, non-threatening and respectful…peace”

            I am replying: You have ‘made’ yourself believe He does not exist beyond just thinking and that He is not substantial in a spiritual sense (as He is a spirit). You have not sought it. And I have no reason to speak in a threatening way; I wouldn’t be very Godly if I was.

            • that’s why I said as I wrote…for many disagreement, concerning faith, can lead to some aggression, even violence…I grew up in the Southern Baptist Church…it was a most unique education…peace

            • Well, that is wherein the problem lies: people need to follow God as He is presented in the Holy Bible (not because I say so, but because that is the way). Too many different opinions on the One God is misleading (which is a sin, actually). And churches are meant to be places of peace and learning about God, so when there is strife in a church, don’t blame the church or the religion (if it is teaching from the Bible, that is); no that is not to blame, but blame people. People are commit the actions. Church is a way to congregate and learn of God (even the Bible strongly recommends congregating), but people often fall away from church just because of the actions of other PEOPLE. The right thing to do would be to carry on at your church (if it tightly teaching, that is) and not let the trivialities of people upset your experience. Or at least continue on at another (less uproarious) church that teaches rightly. Don’t let people run you away from church.

            • God is beyond only a state of mind. We need to be spiritual (having Him in heart and thought) in God, that is important, but congregating is important.
              Here is an example of why congregating is very important in bonding with God, Jesus and fellow believers for learning and strength: http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/what-does-the-bible-say-about-church-membership-and-attendance/
              And the part in the above link that says “Then at Christ’s return, you can be with Him forever in eternal joy and fellowship,”-that is if we have lived a righteous life. And speaking of that, God loves life and He is giving humanity a lot of time to get ourselves ‘right'; otherwise He would have had Armageddon come at an earlier time already; He wants us to be saved. (He so loves life that even in the Bible and today, God only destroyed things of evil and He spares the innocent. When Pharaoh ordered that all 1st born males of Hebrew children be drowned, God made sure to avenge that, for ex. He punished Pharoah/Egypt…it’s pretty much reaping what you sow. He always destroys the evil, rather than let evil exist (which would go against Him; He originates goodness). He never destroyed the good. He had REASONS. WE humans, on the other hand, kill each other for stupid things like: material possessions, because we are mad, because someone isn’t the ‘right’ color. We go against God’s Will that He wants us to follow. Instead we commit our free will by letting evil thoughts control our minds & doing things like curse at each other, lie or kill people. We are the wicked ones, yet still capable of being good as He enabled us with that capability. God loves life so much, that when people die, the beauty of it is that spirits survive; the spirits that He provided us with go on living beyond death and await Judgement Day to either live forever or suffer for never becoming righteous).
              Again, God is beyond a state of mind, He IS and He is a PRESENT. You haven’t accepted it, but your acceptance does not get rid of the reality of Jehovah’s real, beyond mentality presence. You cannot erase such strong proof of that in many peoples’ lives (including mine). You have not been there for me to know what I (and others) know.
              Don’t crowd out God’s truth with what you want to think. All I can suggest is study about His realness (Holy Bible) and pray for understanding of it, asking Him to show you WHY He is beyond just mentality; asking why He is very real and a spiritual being. (And by “ask why” I mean with respect & a willingness to be ready to open up & understand Him better; I do NOT mean challenging Him for ‘proof’; He is wonderful and to be respected. Challenging God is not humility and not Godly; challenging God is punishable…people should ask Him such things with humility & kindness and for BETTER understanding, not hot-headed ‘proof’). Let Him know you would like to experience such realness. If you want to make sure that prayer is heard: Pray sincerely and in faith (belief) in order to receive eventual answer(s). Begin prayer with asking forgiveness of sin (we all mess up and this is pretty much going into prayer with a clean heart and mind), praise God’s goodness (He deserves it, He does so much in His love for us), pray for a better understanding of things you wonder about and ask honestly and respectfully (why think you will be answered if you are not honest & respectful?), ask that it be done in His Will (it is up to God how and when He answers, not up to us) and end prayer through Jesus’ name (as he is obviously connected to God as His son and is a messenger). Praying for faith in Jehovah and everything He REALLY is without doubt and prayer about anything works the same way if you want to be heard. I pray often and my experience with Him is that He answers as He sees fit in action and in His time. It works out for the best when I am sincere; I can testify. I can only suggest how to pray for answers if you really want full understanding of things. You pray rightly and then wait; sometimes you pray again, but still wait. Why have questions for people like me if you do not study or pray to understand better?
              I have to go to bed for work. I can’t reply all night. All I can do is tell you. I cannot force you. It is up to you to be ready and want it. God is waiting.

            • yes, yes, and this ALL without any proof, except self hypnotization; Hebrews 11:1, reads you substance and evidence to have faith, not feelings, good, deep or profound or intense…God doesn’t need souls, followers, heaven, a son or books…but this is your peace and I shall leave you with peace, in peace, with your peace…

            • I re-typed this because I hate typos (typos mess up what you are trying to say), but it is the same as the last post (w/ no typos): Well, that is wherein the problem lies: people need to follow God as He is presented in the Holy Bible (not because I say so, but because that is the way). Too many different opinions on the One God is misleading (which is a sin, actually). And churches are meant to be places of peace and learning about God, so when there is strife in a church, don’t blame the church or the religion (if it is teaching from the Bible, that is); no that is not to blame, but blame people. People committ the actions. Church is a way to congregate and learn of God (even the Bible strongly recommends congregating), but people often fall away from church just because of the actions of other PEOPLE. The right thing to do would be to carry on at your church (if it is rightly teaching, that is) and not let the trivialities of people upset your experience. Or at least continue on at another (less uproarious) church that teaches rightly. Don’t let people run you away from church.

            • No, cults arise when brainwashing happens and wrong things are done along with that brainwashing. Being conscious of God and following Him go hand-in-hand and there is nothing brainwashing about God. So you basically called God a cult. You should know better, you should know in the case of God that following is basically the opposite of straying from Him and also means to live in His way. I shouldn’t even have had to explain that. You used the term “cult” to avoid the fact we should treat God as such in our lives. Hmm.

            • The church is not a cult, you brainwash yourself because you do not organized religion. So now you ae also trying to tell every church-goer in the world it has not benefittef them. Apparently, you are their authority and you have followed them through life. Church was constituted by Jesus, actually. Matthew 16:18 – “And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” And God approved it. It is another part of Him (again I say blame people and not a church institution itself for any strife IN the church; unless you ignored this too like everything else I said because you seem to know everything) You make up things for EVERYONE else because of your personal disbelief. Wow. That is terrible.

            • okay, first of all, temple is a more appropriate word, the word church is a european derivation, thus an anachronism, peter means rock…again the sleight hand of men deceiving…

            • No, the church (no matter what term or translation you are hung up on; therefore, intentionally missing the whole meaning of a house of worship) serves the same purpose as a temple as it is also a house of praise and worship. You are not making sense. You are trying to make your own sense and lying is a sin. Peter was charged with beginning the church (or whatever term you are stuck on). A church and a congregation serve alos the purpose of worship. The Rock (the great rock) means Jesus (not Peter; though his name is a translation of “rock”). Jesus, the way of salvation, is the “rock” being referred to in that verse because Jesus, obviously being the way of salvation, is the foundation of the church and fellowshipping in God and Christ. Not Peter. And if you try to change this, you are profaning against God. Read the Word for what it is and not what you want it to be. God is not built around you. Adding to or taking away from God’s sayings (as you try to do) is a sin.

              “In these verses, Christ stated, “And I say unto you, that you are Peter, and upon this Rock I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto you the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

              In order to understand the meaning here, we must start reading from Matt. 16:13. Christ asked the disciples, “Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?”

              Peter answered, “ You [Jesus] are the Christ, the Son of the living God” (vs. 16). Then Christ responded, “You are Peter [petros, which means little rock], and upon this rock [petra, means very great rock, referring to Christ Himself] I [pointing to Himself] will build My church” (vs. 18). Most people assume here that Christ is building His Church on Peter. But this is not the case. Christ is the great “Rock” upon whom the Church is built (Deut. 32:3-4, 15, 18; I Cor. 10:4; Eph. 2:20; I Pet. 2:6), not Peter (Eph. 1:22; 5:23; Col. 1:18).

              Christ was telling Peter that He (Christ) was about to establish the New Testament Church, lead it (Eph. 5:23), be with it always (Matt. 28:20), and that the gates of hell [Hades—the grave] would never prevail against it. God’s Church was to continue to exist, doing His Work through the ages as a “little flock” (Luke 12:32), until the end of the age, when it would circle the whole world with the good news of the kingdom of God (Matt. 24:14). This Church would be persecuted (John 15:20; 16:33), but would never die out, remaining until Christ’s Return.

              In Matthew 16:19, Christ continues, “And I will give unto you the keys of the kingdom of heaven…” The “keys” He is referring to here is symbolic language meaning that He gives His ministers the knowledge of how to enter the kingdom. This knowledge shows the way of life a Christian must follow in order to achieve salvation. Luke 11:52 shows Christ reproving certain lawyers for hiding or suppressing this knowledge, thus preventing themselves and others from entering the kingdom.

              Continuing, “…and whatsoever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven…” Some will say that this verse gives men the power or authority to change what God has said in the Bible. This is absolutely not the case! No man can change what God has said! The true ministers of God have been given the authority to bind only that which is in agreement with God’s laws. That, then, would be backed up—bound—by God. When God’s ministers make a decision, it is based on Scripture—based on God’s will. But this in no way is giving ministers the power to forgive sin. Only God can and does that (Mark 2:7). God does give ministers the ability to discern when a person has repented of certain sins, thus concluding that God has forgiven them.”
              ONLY ministers have the authority to bind or loose in the last part (one must be ordained to be a minister, by the way….). And even when they do bind or loose something on earth, they do it based on GOD’s WILL, not theirs.

            • we were having a fine conversation until this point, no name calling just exchanging views…which is dynamic, as far as, sparking the thought process…now how did You get so smart you can crawl into God’s mind and the mind of men, two thousand, plus, years ago and discern WHAT they really mean, how do you do that, how is it you have the correct religious definitions, interpretations, interpolations, exegesis and those, who don’t agree are all wrong, be…careful, other people are reading…

            • How did you get so ‘smart’ that you can deny things about Him and, and at the same time, try to destroy it for everyone else? The truth is the truth. And I say it again: not because I want it that way but because, unlike you, many others & myself do not try to make God all about US. And you should be careful, God is reading every blasphemous and self-serving thought in your mind before you even think it & type it.

            • Belief is proof of faith and faith is proof of God. Belief is, then, a prime proof of God. You cannot explain Him and His Being, Essence & Spirit so you say He is in your brain/mentality and that is the limit of it for you. You cannot see His form. he is too big & brightly magnificent for you and me to see. But I have SEEN Him through the wonderful things (nature, blessings in my life, kind acts, the universe, my Mother’s love, and so much more) and I FEEL Him in my head, my heart and all around me; in my life-it is an awesome feeling to have Him envelope your whole body; to feel the positive heaviness of His presence. But you are not me and you do not have that bond or belief. You would not know that. You do not know everything. If you do not know, just admit you do not know (come off the pride), instead of saying it is not so.

            • belief is not proof of anything…then every belief would be faith, then all faiths would agree, and they don’t…seeing God in nature is pantheism…pantheism is a slight step above paganism…paganism, is that the root of your faith….

            • Belief is proof, you just do not accept it. This is not your world, it’s god’s and you don’t at least have a little faith…you have none. You have nothing to work with. God is the root of my nature and His creations are an extension of my faith as He created nature and everyone in this world. God is in nature, He created it, so your intellectual teachings right now are working against you and they also tell God He is not the creator of all nature. Now you blaspheme. You will be punished for sure. You only care about yourself.

            • You tried to know me (and you do not), but I know you are full of yourself. Have you noticed your way of wording yourself? More importantly, have you noticed you have NO faith and pick parts of God to believe in? Sure.

            • Done with you. You don’t want to accept truth (I can’t make you). But you should still respect God (you don’t). Wow. Anyway, you lost before you even started this conversation or this blog. You lost because you are blasphemous.

            • I have a home church and a church in my new city (both Southern Baptist) that not only teach from the Holy Bible as it is written, but also tell the truth of God and His obvious goodness. Both churches also have a civil environment…no mess allowed. Some of the calmest people you can meet; they may not be perfect (who is??), but most of them, you can tell, LIVE their experience with the very real and present God. Going to church alone for in-depth learning and congregating/fellowshipping with believers is important in of itself, but a church with calm people helps one take in the church experience even more positively. Again: don’t blame the church or the religion (if it is teaching from the Bible, that is); no that is not to blame, but blame people. People committ the actions. It is sad when folks let people run them away from church. People are only as strong as you make them.

            • You are doing what atheists I have conversated with do: I explain to them why I follow God beyond being taught/introduced to Him; that I believe based on a connection & PERSONAL experiences you do not even know and cannot say you know (and I did explain it to you in multiple paregraphs and replies), and, just like atheists, you cover up what I clearly explained in depth by ignoring (intentionally) what I told you. Instead you go ahead to explain MY life. You try to explain a life you don’t know (mine) , a relationship you don’t have (God & mine) and you make sure not to ASK me why I believe, but instead TELL me like you know why. That is an audacity, really.

            • it takes audacity to awaken people…but substance, evidence, you’ve yet to offer…cause you don’t have any, but what you’ve been taught, and are repeating, which is fine, if it brings you peace…

            • So everyone must awaken themselves to your thoughts? You aren’t that powerful. And if you were a true believer you would believe God in ALL that He is, not bits and pieces. You aren’t a true believer. I am not repeating. You do not have my life. You cannot tell me WHY I came to believe. I will stick to what I said as I am me and you are not me: I came to believe through being introduced to Him and as I got older, His presence in y life became personal on a level you have no idea of. I came to honestly love Him for Who He is to me and the moments I have gone through with Him by my side. I love Him and He loves me. But you take the road of gleefuly telling me you know my story (and by the way, you still never ASKED me, but assume why a stranger believes). You have no God in you because you are doing the ignoring what i say thing on purpose and you are enjoying it. That is evil. And so are you. Assumption, being a know-it-all about another’s experience (without asking me ever, I add again) and doing it over and over are evil.

            • well, that’s, again partially true…I am not defining you…just expressing my opinion…but as I said…I am comfortable, with my peace…seems I am disturbing yours, politely I hope…

            • No, you are try hard to define me and a lot of people you don’t know and haven’t walked with in life as God has. You can’t talk about what you don’t know, that is common sense, and you do not know my journey with God nor anyone elses’s when you were never around. And there is nothing polite about disturbing peace. That is a dichotomy. So you just admitted you are happy to upset people. Very unGodly, I have to say.
              And my peace has not been disturbed nor am I upset (but since you cannot see me nor know me, you wouldn’t know that, either). Noone can detract me from God and from Whom He really is, noone is worth that much.

            • do you think I grew up in a people-less church…and this defense of positioning me as evil, doesn’t wash…we are having a difference of opinion…since when is that evil…let’s try to remain adults here…

            • You are being evil because you are trying to alter God and you are trying to act as if you are in shoes (mine) that you never walked and enjoying it, apparently. I am surprised you finally admitted that you do not know me. And nor do you know my nearly 40 year journey with God. You were never around for me. You were never around to observe my bond with Him and how we bond with one another.
              Me calling out your evil-ness is adult. I called your obvious negative actions evil, I did not call you names and I did not try to irk you intentionally as you are (unsuccessfuly) trying to do to me. That is childish.

            • And the Bible is God’s Word. Think of it as a most meaningful book on Whom God is, how to conduct onesself, the history and occurences of the faith and also the tings to come and how we should spiritually prepare ourselves.
              You do not accept that Bible, but that does not get rid of its meaning on account of simply you.
              And if you do not see God as so many see Him and if you do not bond with Him (a bond you don’t know anything about, I see) itake that from anyone n a way as so many do, there is no way you can take that from anyone. You could at least respect those whom know and see something you just don’t.
              There are people whom know what you just don’t. You don’t know everything and all.

          • You said in your last reply: “yes, yes, and this ALL without any proof, except self hypnotization; Hebrews 11:1, reads you substance and evidence to have faith, not feelings, good, deep or profound or intense…God doesn’t need souls, followers, heaven, a son or books…but this is your peace and I shall leave you with peace, in peace, with your peace…”

            Me: Who are you to say what God needs? You are saying you are God’s authority by trying to erase the truth just because you do not know it, can’t explain any of it and don’t take any of it seriously. No matter what you say, the Holy Word is truth, you just think you are intellectual above everyone else, even God. Your respect is little for you deny His truth for your own thought. You do not even respect what He has done or His son (you believe in God, but will not accept every part of Him). Self-serving. You also do not respect that people have had real and concrete experiences with God that you have not had by telling them they are basically lying (you do tell people this when you decide to act as if you know their experiences with God by telling them He is not Whom they think; and yet you DON’T know and never sought that part of Him – a spiritual being). There are people whom know what you do not (but you hate to admit it) and that you do not give an effort to know.

            • You just set yourself above god by saying that. No, you need God’s help to get over yourself. And simce you do not know me, God has been helping me all my life and He has blessed me in ways you don’t know, so I must be doing something right. (But then again, I forget, you know everything about everyone). You need God’s help more than me as you do not even accept Him in full. I have accepted God in full; I don’t wrap God around me, He is above me.

            • I guess I am doing everything all wrong…you keep referring to what I don’t know about you…I never said I did…but I do know the church, as I said I grew up in there every Sunday and some week days and I do know what is psychotic…but, I think we all do…

            • You did say you know me by TELLING me why I believe and never having the maturity and open heart enough to simply ASK. And you do not know EVERY church family that exists. There are wonderful environments that exist in churches that you have yet to walk into.

            • and there are wonderful non-church environments…if you have found your peace in the church, fine…I have move beyond and found mine…but telling someone your way is the right and only way is out of sync with reality…

            • Hm…seems to be that you are telling others your way to believe in God (the partial way) is the right way. It isn’t. You do not even have faith to believe in a Being you do not see in form (God) and so you erase that part of Him because you cannot explain it, but yet you think you are teaching. You have no faith. But you would say you do. You mislead people. That is a sin as well. You tell your thoughts and not God’s truth.

            • ok, I may NOT share your faith, I don’t…but you have no evidence, you have nothing…I have offered you every opportunity to supply your substance of things hoped for…your evidence of things unseen…and you have failed…except for hurting my feelings with your only defense, name calling…just supply me and the audience, proof…can you, in a Godly manner….

            • I have told it all. You may as well re-read the miles worth of paragraphs I replied with as a showing of my evidence. You just want to believe in YOUR own way and not by faith…WE WALK BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT. You have no faith at all.
              I didn’t hurt your feelings by calling you evil (which is all I said to you regarding your character, besides that you are faithless and a misleader). When you do not believe and when you treat God how you want to, add and subtract what you want to/from the Bible…well, that is evil.
              I was Godly and still am. You want to play the victim card when you are wrong for trying to know my life and my boned with God earlier (which you cannot know and which you surprisingly admitted you do not know, eventually). You are also wrong for trying to know the lives of other FULL believers and their walk with God.
              So the victim card cannot work.
              Worst of all: you do not have faith, you limit God’s presence to just a mentality, you do not follow the Word, you deny God’s very son Jesus…and all because you DO NOT KNOW and cannot EXPLAIN IT ALL.
              I told you all there is to know and even extra, you just choose to not accept it. You sin.

            • according to you and your beliefs…your perspective is just that and I thank you for sharing…but I think you really need to inspect those stories you’ve been taught to believe…stories

            • Again, you go back to acting like you know me (so, yes, you are evil because instigating and trying to assume one’s life experiences are evil and vain). You are full of yourself and it is disgusting. My faith goes beyond stories. My faith and belief are my walk with God. My walk with God is far from a story. You were never there, so get over yourself, you are failing miserably talking of things you know nothing of. You have no idea of WHY I came to believe (besides the things I already told you in the 10+ paragraphs above about why…because that is not nearly all the reason why). You will never know the exact steps that led me there (or anyone whom believes in the truth of Jehovah) as you are too vain to simply ASK me WHY! Afraid to know the full truth, I see. Asking would not kill you, I hope you know. You will never know that God is spiritually manifest beyond only a mentality: He is in nature, in just breathing, in blessings big and small, in His embrace (something you have never felt as you do not believe He is a spiritual being; but your unbelief does not erase the truth & does not erase the journeys you were not there for). He is in just a simple kindness, in the universe (He made all good things and He made us & nature; also something you don’t get, so you take the easy road to say it isn’t true), in my heart and in my spirit and a lot more. I walk by faith and am not so weak that I have to have sight of His form to believe in His very real presence. I have faith. I am safe and secure and happier than you’ll ever know (no, you don’t know that, either) about my bond with God. You have no idea. God is my Creator, Father and he is my All. You do not know Him at all.

            • again, let’s be adults…all people who have faith are safe and secure and walk with God…then why are faiths starting wars, killing each other and innocents in God’s name…you’d better go straighten them out, since you have the only correct way and understanding…start with the Pope….

            • Blame PEOPLE for being sinful and too wayward. You never want to blame people, I see. I’m done explaining all I could say. You think you are too big for the truth and too big for God. Straighten yourself out first. You need to God to punish you before you do that, I guess.

            • no, I think God will reward me for being honest…so many have come before and will come after you….saying they know God, have a personal relationship, walk with God and yet they will disagree, fight, sin…sorry I am not making them do that…peace

            • I have walked with Him and I (and others) have nothing to prove to a fool whom actually KNOWS he doesn’t know. You’d’ve had to been there. That is logic. You are just too full of yourself and foolish to change. Change is not in your vocabulary. Fools have to learn the hard way.

            • once again, you attack me, personally, However, on the other hand, I have merely disagreed with your beliefs and opinions, which I attacked…let’s see, according to you, I am a liar, a fool, going to hell, full of myself…and this is God-like, no church-like…all I did was disagree with you…I think you make your hypocrisy plain and obvious to ALL…

            • Look back at the replies and see whom was trying to step on toes to begin with. Not me. You are a hypocrit, not I. I called you everything you ae and that is truth, not hypocrisy (a word you use to save yourself and turn it on another). You called God non-existant in presence but yet cannot see your error. You say even His son is a fallacy but cannot see your error. You called the acknowledgement of God as creator of nature paganism, but you cannot see your error. You blasphemed and sinned your way through the entire conversation. You are no friend of God’s.
              I spoke of Him and His wonders and have also accepted Him (and His wonderful son Jesus in full…not in partials, not to suit my life/mind…no, in FULL). You don’t even have any faith.
              No, I am more Godly than you’ll ever be.
              You have sinned beyond much. You just have trouble looking at yourself. Time to stop pointing fingers and look in the mirror.

      • Dr O, there is no ‘irrefutable proof’, we either KNOW or we don’t. That’s the connection I believe the guy was talking about. God has many (Cosmic) forms, but One energy.

            • First of all, you aren’t God. I wouldn’t place myself as God just to make an example. That is having too many liberties. So, there is no need for me to even be bothered by that statement. Second of all there is proof of God, but all many people do is miss His many examples of being present; they form their own thoughts about Him instead of just accepting Him. They say He is ‘not this’ or ‘not that’ all on account of not being able to explain Him (that is the easy way out; it takes no effort to deny something). Just because you cannot explain God does not erase Him from being/existing. Just because you want to live the way you want to live does not make God nonexistant. I am going to continue to believe because God and His presence provide me hope during dark days and happy days. That is my personal experience (me & many others) that you have no knowledge of…you have not walked with me all my life to know. I realize that as a human being, I am too vulnerable to do everything on my own, so I’m humble and appreciative of Him. I’m not perfect (nobody is), but I am glad for the positive things God has instilled in me and I give him credit for the positive aspects about my character.

            • in the end…it comes down to what you ‘make’ yourself believe…and you have every right to believe as you choose…however, so do I…the integrity test of faith is when we can peacefully co-exist…I enjoy dialogue with you, it is pleasant, non-threatening and respectful…peace

            • I shouldn’t have to back up my belief just because you do not share my personal (I emphasize ‘personal’) experiences with God…think about how conceited (just being honest) that sounds…… The proof that God exists is in many things that you choose to miss: the Holy Bible (God’s Word written by men whom had the Word revealed to them and also wrote from personal observations/experiences…no matter how much people say the Bible was changed over time, it is the Word of God), there is proof in the miracle of creation and its vastness (watch the “Fibonacci numbers – The Fingerprint of God” on YouTube; it delves further into this fact: If you study biology, botany, astronomy, etc., everything in life has a MATHEMATIC basis, which means a THINKER had to do it – NOT humans, as we can’t make a tree or stars starting from their most basic molecular beginnings and which means a THINKER had to even CONTROL the NON-THINKING attributes of science.). There is proof of God in just being alive and knowing that greatness (God) is responsible for me breathing. There is proof of God when I was jobless and prayed continuously and couldn’t even help myself on just my own merit (meaning I needed help from more than just my resume) through months of searching and a job was given me right when I really needed it; and the job ended up being a job that is in my field and pays me more than any I’ve had and I am able to get to work because my roommate recently started working from home some time before I was hired (that is no coincidence, God worked that out). I have a good life & people whom care, but there are also darker days, so there is proof of God’s presence when I’ve had days when nearly everybody treated me like crap and I wasn’t doing myself any favors either, but talking to God (because He does make himself available) filled me and I felt better; I felt His presence all around me and got over hurtful people thanks to His strength. There is proof of God’s presence when I feel and KNOW His love everywhere I go. I think about Him everyday. He is a present spiritual being and He is in my life….but then you do not have my experiences, you would never know and you should not think you do.

            • I don’t need to have your experiences…I have my own and for something to be truthful, it requires evidence, substance…proof, otherwise you wouldn’t be able to tell the truth from a lie…the Bible is the word of which God and how do you know for certain…peace

            • If you need evidence you can see instead of accepting the Holy Bible and along with that, the existance of God’s powerful presence in all things unseen (and seen; i.e. nature, life, etc.) than you have no faith. You act on seeing, not faith. You do not believe in God enough-you have a limit. Faith requires strength. And by saying you need proof you are telling me (and those like me) that you do know our experiences by saying we are lying. One is not lying (as you nextly suggested) when they live through what they know and when they live WITH Whom they know. One is not lying just because you personally do not want to accept the Word of God or his substance and instead want to say you are not lying to serve self. You place your life upon everyone else’s. That is not right and it is not humble.

      • I also forgot to mention this: that the statements of “Man invented God and his son” and “God is a spirit of your Mind” appeared atheistic. God is real and present. The One God loves us, but not our errors. His intentions for us are to see us saved (accepting and believing in Him, His Word the Bible and His son), baptized (a concrete show of obeyance, purity and eternal bond to them-as even Jesus was baptized) and also he wants us to endure the evils of this world by not falling into them. His love is great and matchless.

          • My life’s ups and downs and going through things while with God in my life are my thought. That is all the thinking…right there. I am not repeating (but you would say that as you think that you know me, my life & my relationship with God apparently). Yes, I was introduced the existance & truth of God as a child, but as I grew I experienced Him for myself. He is in my mind and life everyday. I love Him. It’s not mindless belief, it’s a connection.

            • Why? Because there really is one path, simply put. Not because I want it that way, but because it is truth. There are a variance of minds and; therefore, a variance of faiths. Everyone wants to believe in God their own way instead of accepting Him as Jehovah of the Holy Bible: Creator, Father and so many more awesome things.

            • Who gave you the authority to act like you know? Whom gave you the authority to, just because you don’t know (and you don’t), say it isn’t truth? People think they know so much about God and know very little. And people also feel they can discount/discredit/erase things just because they cannot explain it. Not humble at all.

            • I know God and you think you know. You don’t understand what others do and because you are the ‘smartest person in the world’. you hate to admit others know things about God that you don’t. You are not of God to even treat people like that.

            • you got me…I hate to admit or be defeated by known falsehoods…my purpose is not to acquire agreement, but to provoke thought…oh by the way, being intelligent doesn’t hurt…

            • God being a present spiritual being and the Word of God is not a ‘known’ falsehood as it is the truth and as it has done wonders for people that you care not to accept. You aren’t powerful enough to change it and trying to change it is slapping God in the face. But you will be punished for that. And no, just other people being intelligent agitates you.

            • God may be looking over them because He loves them as His creations and is waiting for them to believe (correctly and be saved), but if they believed in the truth of God (and not what THEY want to fit their life and to fit THEIR will instead of God’s), they would experience God in full. They are missing out.

            • God may be, no proof…again you are reading God’s mind, how do you that…the truth is what you believe and only what you believe…this time, without attacking me…PROVE it!…

            • You attacked me earlier by ignoring my explainations and giving your OWN definitions. You attacked me earlier by admitting that you disturbed my peace (which you did not, trust me..if you can trust anyone beside yourself, that is) and that you hope it was politely done. What is polite about that? I called you evil, that is not attacking-that is the truth. I see you also have trouble owning up to negative actions & flaws in yourself.
              I explained plenty. And I even suggested to study the Word and pray for understanding (which is very Godly of me to even bother telling you to do such an important thing). If I explain anymore, you may as well ask me for blood. The proof is in EVERYTHING I told you in EVERY paragraph. You have NO faith and you do not believe in God as you think. Not at all. You do not take Him seriously. You only care for self. You won’t understand unless you want to or unless something very negative happens to compel you to have real faith; whichever happens first.

            • hmm, attacking and defending my opinion may have blurred your vision…again, believe what you want, but do not deceive by pretending you have some absolute truth which you have to believe in…that is an oxymoron…

            • Nope. You beat me with Satan when you called much of God a story and you denied Jesus even exists.
              God is my Father because I accept what He says of Himself. You don’t. Done with you. You’re sick.

            • what he says of himself…that’s funny, because it comes from a book that men wrote or a preacher…God says or they are saying for him…done with me, ok, go in peace…best of luck to you….

            • I already explained the writing of the Bible very, very early in the conversation. But you chose to miss that as well like everything else. Not intelligent to miss so much. Again, I can’t make you believe in the right way. You need God to punish you for your error against Him to learn, first.
              The more I stand up for Jehovah, the more I can get over myself. It’s not about me, but about Him. You may learn that.

            • no, you gave me your opinion of what you have been led to believe…listen to how sick these words are…because I disagree with you, ‘I need God to punish me”…no one needs to punish you for not agreeing with me…and yet you can’t see that…but remember, you’re DONE with me…

            • No, I gave you the truth. You just don’t want to accept it and do not want to hear it. You of little faith, indeed. You willbe punished for all the ways you went against Him in this conversation and in your life (you should repent and apologize; you’ve gotten too big for your britches); you are a partial believer and you base Jehovah on your terms and not on the truth. Punishable.
              I won’t be punished, but not because I am not flawed (we all are…uh, yes, even you though you don’t seem to think so). The fact is: I won’t be punished for speaking the truth. I won’t be punished for limiting God (I haven’t done that, you did) and I won’t be punished for denying Jesus (I didn’t, you did that and it is impossible to accept God w/out His very son). You just do not accept it as such. You still have time, but you have to want it or experience hardships as a reaping before you do (whatever comes 1st).
              If I said I am done, then leave me alone and stop replying to me.
              I am at peace.

    • Can I ask… do you feel Love in your heart?

      If you do.. perhaps we could try and RELATE to each other, instead of ‘blame’ each other? Why go the route of separation and try isolate yourself by saying ‘Me, a Christian, has a monopoly on understanding of God’? If you read more of the posts… you’d see the God lives here, very much. God is not a Noun (Word). God is a Verb.

      • I do have a lot of love in me, but since you do not know me personally and do not know my spirit, you would probably assume I don’t. There is One God for all. He loves us all, but not our wrondoings. He wants us to be our best and for us to be saved and make it to the Kingdom, that is why He is giving humanity time to do so before the end of the evil things of society. I said what I said because of two statements at the bullet points above: “Man invented God and his son” and “God is a spirit of your Mind”. It sounded atheistic. God is more than a spirit of the mind. He is real and present.

        • I try not to assume anything. You… Dr O… I… have different perceptions of God. I want to ask you something again… God of Islam… God of Buddhism… God of Christianity… God of Zoroastrianism… God of Judaism… God of Hinduism… are they different types of God?

          • The God of Christianity and Judaism are the same God and I am still figuring out (I am humble enough to admit) if the Islamist God is the same One God, but that Islam just has a totally different take on Him. Buddhism is not the One God. In fact Buddhism is based, well, on Buddha or Siddhārtha Gautama Buddha, a man (and a man is not a god). God is a spirit, not of flesh (though God sent His son Jesus to atone for our sins and he lived as flesh; perfect flesh, now his son is a spirit as well living eternally). Hinduism, like Buddhism, does not believe in the One God (i.e. Jehovah). Zoroastrianism does not follow Jehovah, either.

            • Just to correct you there on Buddhism…. It’s NAME is based on Buddha, in the same way the Name of Christianity is based on Christ. Gautama was just the man who received the Spirit (like Jesus) from God…. in the same way Muhhammad was. In fact, this last one is told to be visited by Gabriel. Muslims consider Jesus, Muhhamad and Moses as Prophets, did you know that?

              “If You think that I am able to behold Your cosmic form, O my Lord, O master of all mystic power, then kindly show me that universal Self. ” – Bhagavad Gita. God is ONE SPIRIT in Buddhism too.

              Try to open your mind a bit, outside of what you already know, go with me…. So… who and what is God in all those? Most major religions proclaim God as One. Can you see the similarities? Why are they there?

          • For some reason, there is no Reply button on your new comment, so I am replying this way. ere is your comment: “Just to correct you there on Buddhism…. It’s NAME is based on Buddha, in the same way the Name of Christianity is based on Christ. Gautama was just the man who received the Spirit (like Jesus) from God…. in the same way Muhhammad was. In fact, this last one is told to be visited by Gabriel. Muslims consider Jesus, Muhhamad and Moses as Prophets, did you know that?

            “If You think that I am able to behold Your cosmic form, O my Lord, O master of all mystic power, then kindly show me that universal Self. ” – Bhagavad Gita. God is ONE SPIRIT in Buddhism too.

            Try to open your mind a bit, outside of what you already know, go with me…. So… who and what is God in all those? Most major religions proclaim God as One. Can you see the similarities? Why are they there?”

            My reply: Actually, Muslims consider Jesus to be the Messiah (even though Judaism considers him to be a high prophet). Buddhism is based on a man whom is mortal. When he died he did not become an eternal spirit like Jesus whom is also to judge humanity. Jesus is unmatched. And Buddha did not give his life for me. I love and respect Jesus for his loving nature alone and also for his sacrifice (& he did do that). Noone else has or would do that for anyone. He was a sacrifice to annihilate ever having to constantly atone for sins through animal sacrifice. Jesus’ sacrifice was once and God loves His son so much, too, that now Jesus lives eternally never having to die, again. As long as we repent (ask for forgiveness of wrongdoings and commit to actually move past sins sincerely), we are utilizing that atonement the right way. In some religions there are similarities because, like Judaism, they draw form the same source-Jehovah.
            I hold to that there is One God. He isn’t partial to anyone (He values all, but not sin) and He isn’t just mainly centered around certain cultures. I am not one to give up my belief in a One true God when he has done so much for all. It is a shame when people question His One-ness and that there is no one like Him. If I “open” myself to invite many different interpretations of God, I will lose sight of the real Jehovah (Whom many may call the Christian God, yes, but He is also God of all…it is just that the Christian learning of God is the correct way to understand Him; that may sound pompous to you, but it isn’t, it is the way to really understand Him). After all He has done for me, I will not turn on Him for people or for theories. People and theories cannot save you, only the One God can. Since you do not know me or my experiences, you cannot know what God does for me, my relationship with Him or even the conversations I have with Him (as I am not only praying to Him just to ask for things). Being too open results in accepting mutitudes, but not accepting Jehovah all by himself. That is dangerous and does not show love toward Him. I love God too much to allow human beings and multi-theories to draw me from Him. God is the only theory I want and need.

            • “Being too open results in accepting mutitudes, but not accepting Jehovah all by himself. That is dangerous and does not show love toward Him. I love God too much to allow human beings and multi-theories to draw me from Him. God is the only theory I want and need.”

              There is a lot of fear in the above. What are you afraid of? I am glad that you hold God as One, but so do other religions…. what is the difference… you are afraid to ask that. So yes, it’s easy to shut everything out. This is what leads to people to misunderstanding one another and going to war with one another, and what for?

              Look deeper. What separates me from you? Colour, where you live, education, upbringing, religion. Yes, religion as it comes FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES, the superficial surface nothing…. Does it matter that you eat waffles for breakfast, and I eat toast, and someone eats rice? What UNITES you and I? We are – Human, we bleed, feel, love, think, cry, hope, we BE. THIS is God, one and United, and you try to do what? Split it all in the middle, into ‘I am Christian and you are not’….. This is NOT what Christianity teaches, and you haven’t got a clue, apart from Dogma. I am sorry to say that to you.

              I used to be an atheist all my life, not anymore. So it is easy for me to see the Whole Picture, not just the fragments of what each religion teaches. Why? I come from One Spirit. ONE.

          • Again, I have to reply to your comments this way because they reply button on your recent replies does not show.
            You replied: “There is a lot of fear in the above. What are you afraid of? I am glad that you hold God as One, but so do other religions…. what is the difference… you are afraid to ask that. So yes, it’s easy to shut everything out. This is what leads to people to misunderstanding one another and going to war with one another, and what for?

            Look deeper. What separates me from you? Colour, where you live, education, upbringing, religion. Yes, religion as it comes FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES, the superficial surface nothing…. Does it matter that you eat waffles for breakfast, and I eat toast, and someone eats rice? What UNITES you and I? We are – Human, we bleed, feel, love, think, cry, hope, we BE. THIS is God, one and United, and you try to do what? Split it all in the middle, into ‘I am Christian and you are not’….. This is NOT what Christianity teaches, and you haven’t got a clue, apart from Dogma. I am sorry to say that to you.

            I used to be an atheist all my life, not anymore. So it is easy for me to see the Whole Picture, not just the fragments of what each religion teaches. Why? I come from One Spirit. ONE.”

            I say to you: I’m glad you’re not an atheist anymore. Good. But now you mix in so many things where there is only One-Jehovah. There is no need for multiples when God (Jehovah) is all powerful. Then you spoke of fear. I am afraid of disrespecting Him and of losing the One I love. Love drives me to God. He is dear to me. He’s my Father. He’s there when people turn and when I am not even helping myself. When I’m sad or happy, He’s there to talk to (He is open to communication) and to meditate on. That should be explaination enough. You haven’t got a clue of Jehovah, no, not really. You say I have ‘no clue’ as coming from someone not knowing anything about me or my walk with God and my life. Wow. But you have no need to feel ‘sorry’ for me, to make me feel less fortunate than you. I am at peace. I need Jehovah more than I need you. I say that not to be mean, but to be honest and REAL. I am going to end, not because I am running away (as I predict, maybe wrongly, that you will say that is what I am doing), but because we simply will not agree, so what is the point of going on possibly for days on end? I also predict you will tell me to wake up or that I am irrational (maybe I wrongly predict that), so I say I woke up a long time ago and love One God-Jehovah and that is why my life is on a happy course. Peace.

            • Love IS God, and Love knows no fear. When you meet a person with a different belief to yours – hold that Love in your heart, this is what is needed most of all, not the silly differences between who believes what. Hold that Light. I hope you can.

              Peace and love to you too.

          • Your comment: “Love IS God, and Love knows no fear. When you meet a person with a different belief to yours – hold that Love in your heart, this is what is needed most of all, not the silly differences between who believes what. Hold that Light. I hope you can.

            Peace and love to you too.”

            Me to you: Not about differences, but about Jehovah. One God for all. He loves you, too. I can’t make you trust His One-ness, but I can tell you of it. I live in His light daily and think about Him everyday. Take care, Ness.

            • I trust Oneness, there we agree. Jehovah is just a name… just a name, and the names are – many. Oneness is One.

              Take care, good kid:)

            • I will be 40 in some years. Plus, if you meant kid to be snappy (I do not know) or because you do not know my name, I suppose the name Calonie would fit me better, as that is my name. But this is not about names. I’m not one for dragging on a convo, like I said, but Jehovah is beyond a name. It means a variety of Holy meanings for Whom God is (maybe you can look up those descriptive terms) and it assists in differentiating Him from gods (false gods) of other names. I know you call me ‘kid’ because I do not agree with you and because I hold my belief I must be a ‘wet behind the ears’ child. But I am deeply knowledgeable in my belief (but again, you do not know me, my experiences or my life or my relationship with God) and I won’t turn my back on Him. No desire to. Again, Jehovah has been with me all my life, but you would not have any personal knowledge of this. Jehovah is the Only for all. I do not need to say that anymore than I already have. No point; I can’t force, only teach.

            • I said ‘kid’ because you look so young on your photos, Calonie.

              What will you do when you meet, say, a Muslim or a Buddhist?

            • Okay.
              And I would say the same about Jehovah as I told you in every paragraph before this one. I hope that people see what I am saying sooner or later, but I can’t force it. I can’t tell you anymore than that. Again, Jehovah has been with me all my life, but you would not have any personal knowledge of this. He’s Whom I love. Not just because I was told; being told began my introduction to Him. But it goes beyond my raising; as I got older, I experienced God for myself everyday in ways big and small (again, a personal life walk with my Father whom is actually our Father; a personal walk noone but those connected to Jehovah know). I am content and noone can take that. Jehovah is the Only for all. I can so no more.

            • OK, and they will tell you that they, too, have a very personal relationship with God, the Divine Connection. What is it that you all are experiencing? Regardless of the names that you all call it? You are not connecting the dots.

            • There is one God all powerful and no need for a multitude. Re-read all of my previous paragraphs. I and many others understand Jehovah at a personal level, we take the Word of God (the Holy Bible) seriously), we have become connected to Him. I connected the dots as to why there is one God (Jehovah) for all, you just need to want to understand it and have acceptance. I can’t make you, you have to want to get it. It isn’t even hard. People make it that way and have too many paths in their head when theirs one. Read the Holy Bible and meditate on it. I’m done.

            • Oh, and I forgot to mention, pray for understanding of Jehovah. There is even a particular way to pray if you want it to be heard (as there should be a reverential way to approach a Higher Power). Great thing about Jehovah: He listens and He answers if He knows it is something you need or is meant for you, that is. Here’s how: (go into prayer w/ respect, go into it believing, ask for forgiveness of sins-go into it pure of mind/heart, praise Him-He deserves it, be honest, ask that it please be done in His will-it’s not up to us if it happens, end with the prayer ”through Jesus’ name”-Jesus is the messenger). Again, I just repeat: There is one God all powerful and no need for a multitude. Re-read all of my previous paragraphs. I and many others understand Jehovah at a personal level, we take the Word of God (the Holy Bible) seriously), we have become connected to Him. I connected the dots as to why there is one God (Jehovah) for all, you just need to want to understand it and have acceptance. I can’t make you, you have to want to get it. It isn’t even hard. People make it that way and have too many paths in their head when theirs one. Read the Holy Bible and meditate on it. I’m done. Can’t say more than all I’ve said.

            • At the end of my last reply I meant “People make it that way and have too many paths in their head when there’s one (as in Jehovah),” not “theirs one”. Typo.
              Jehovah will answer if you’re serious about wanting to know His One-ness. I had to add this part, otherwise, I wouldn’t have replied, again. I make sure to give people the right information.
              Follow the reply I sent before this one about prayer, studying seriously the Holy Bible, meditation on Him & the Bible and getting connected to Him. Lastly, I won’t say anymore. I so cannot force you, but it’s up to you to do the work to find out. You have to want it.
              He’s waiting.

      • Dr O… I spoke to someone for a year, and this person kicked my ass, and rightly so… I’d still be a Zombie without….. Although your minds are very much alike, no, they are near IDENTICAL… the mode of relating here is very different. But… there are certain things in the way you communicate… or NOT communicate, for that matter…. which make me feel I have arrived at the SAME PLACE. Which is too damn close.

        I’ll step away for a while. Let people listen to the sound of the falling tree. They will learn much from this energy.

  7. Hello, I have nominated you for “Blog of the Year 2012″ and “The Very Inspiring Blog Award”…You can find the awards and the pick up at “The Secret Keeper(dot)net” Congratulations! ps. for some reason your blogs will not accept a link in your comment boxes.

  8. ‘God’ is not outside of us, it is US, our minds. And people look for the saviour who will solve their problems.. Yet, there is a saying ‘God helps those who help themselves’

    Thank you for this poem, it expressed what I am exploring at this moment in life. Life is a flux.

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