7 comments on “When No, No, No Means, Know, Know, Know

  1. An interesting circle, isn’t it… a PRIVATELY owned company (which was not even located in this country) pays peanuts in terms of salary, and the Government picks up the bill of sponsoring education… from the taxpayers’ money. My tax is taken away and redistributed back to me… and I have to pay for it – with interest on top – a debt around my neck for posterity. Who wins? The private company.

    Anyway, I am not an economist, far from it…
    We are affected by and affect the outer life out there, in a recipocal flow. But this creation takes place from the Mind first, because everything that has been created in this world – was born from the feeling and thought first = the Inner. Any change, forced or even bloodless change in the Outer Life Circumstance will not lead to the Mind Change, Dr O, only to the superficial and temporary adjustment of the ‘rules’. As in real life… we can change our residences, jobs, partners, we can move to the other side of the world, but what remains constant? Our messed up heads, our Inner.

      • I don’t know, Dr O… I feel the inner discontent from this exchange, the friction, can’t quite pinpoint why, and I want to understand… and I will.

          • IDEAS and BELIEFS can never be challenged peacefully, because within that challenge – are the seeds of DESTRUCTION, wiping out ‘the old’, ‘the acceptable’, ‘the never questioned’ – and replacing those with the new, soulfully born KNOWING. Soulfully is a violent process, it gets you at the deepest, and anyone who has gone through it – will know that.

            True enlightenment comes from within, from feeling our own reactions inside, often very painful, and only through those we can arrive at the Truth of us – first, our humanity, before we can explore that truth as it applies to the big world out there. Yes, debt, politics, religion, sex, money.. and you are doing it brilliantly, I take my hat off to you, yet… they are just the surface results of what people ARE and BE on a soul level, for most – operating FROM THE BASE, from their emotions which they have no power to grasp, understand, to learn how to connect those to their thoughts, this vicious circle of – feeling—> thought—> emotion —> behaviour… and that resultant behaviour ends up in making the choices – from the base, because the starting point was that unfathomable thing – feeling.

            Every invention, every great idea was born because someone out there was totally TAKEN by it and never stopped to pursue it. Logic and rationality have no supreme power over that, it comes at a LATER STAGE, when own abyss is felt and understood. Without acceptance of humanity of self and others from within – evolutionary/revolutionary movements and break throughs will happen VIOLENTLY because people were EMOTIONALLY CHARGED, by an idea, and will just as emotionally demolish everything in their wake, and oh yes, ANYTHING can be justified by our brains, while the heart simply KNOWS…. the Truth. So when you say ‘I want you to think from your heart’… ain’t gonna happen. The heart does not ‘think’, it ‘feels’ the Truth. And the mind finds numerous ways to conceal that truth – from the Self. Knowing and Understanding are two different things.

            The complete circle of feelings/thoughts is what’s missing. That’s why the discontent, not the use of ‘terminology’, that’s just plain surface, Dr O.

  2. Here is a concrete example of ‘I see debt’.

    My 17 year old will join the Uni next year, and he’ll have to take out a student loan.
    The repayment terms are mild, but until age 65 this will hang over his head like a sword. With only 1% of population able to pay for their education outright, the government has no choice but to sponsor this, or else the country will have no specialists in fields which need academic training.

    IF I was paid a decent wage to start with, I’d be able to save towards that. So we do not enter any credit agreements you say… and it has to be paid for soon, and he only has one life to live, and I cannot tell him ‘Do not do it, have principles, because he dreamed of being a physicist since age seven… Where and how did my work become so devalued in monetary terms that I have to BORROW from the government, because this is what it is… What is a greater social and moral significance of that?

    The system is flawed, but who BENEFITS from that in monetary terms? Is there a benefit in another way?
    Dr O, remember I said I need to connect the dots between my inner awakening and what’s happening out there… learn further…

    • well, I did not know you were an economist…what you just described is what happens when you turn resources into ‘capital’ via privatization…those who control, ‘ownership’ of those resources can now dictate to you what you will do and how you must behave, if you want access, thus cap-stoning their will upon yours…thus Capitalism…peace

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